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Sadly on this day we mark the passing of a dear friend: my Friend is not deceased but has merely transitioned away from Fulfilled Eschatology. Yes, another full preterist has strayed from the herd. Not to fear, people change beliefs every day. Does this go to disprove Fulfilled Eschatology? Sadly; for many, no it does not. What it does signify is that someone is re-examining their beliefs & understandings of items related to Eschatology, and has decided that (for now?) things remain which can not be reconciled between the Bible, History and his current thought processes.
I have had several discussions with him on a multitude of subjects and believe him to be genuinely interested in finding what convinces him of his own personal biblical understanding; that which he accepts as truth. Continued Fellowship among the Brethren should not be at issue with this recent transition, nor should animosity or discord be a result of this change. (on either side of the issue) Many who venture away from Fulfillment are lured into new groups which are made up of, or contain, many other Former Fulfillment believers who have returned to their former doctrinal and/or dogmatic stances and now feel the need not only to reject the idea of fulfillment, but to attack it as a virus, plague or damnable heresy.
Such people refer to us as “Not Christian” or even going so far as to state that we “Hate Christianity, God, Christ & Scripture” simply because we disagree over doctrinal and/or dogmatic issues. These are not our own stated beliefs but instead are presuppositions on behalf of our critics and I therefore reject these types of critique as merely ad-hom attacks or character assassinations to discredit us and alert others to steer clear of those “over-throwing or subverting the faith” again, through presupposition on behalf of those countering our arguments.
Eschatology is a topical Issue & discussion and should never be seen as a Salvational, Salvific or Soteriological argument. Disagreements over items such as Audience Relevance & Time statements are not attacks on the words of God, nor are they denials of plainly written scriptures. Each person stands convicted in their beliefs for a myriad of reasons and among these, are interpretations, hermeneutics, outside influences, prayer, thought, feeling, intent, emotion, want, need, traditions, history, creeds, confessions, synods, councils, edicts, papal bulls, essays, commentaries, biographies, and more.
Disagreeing with the wording on the differences between the Literal-Natural or Literal-Spiritual is not a disagreement with scripture, its message or the character of the speaker, writer, subject or author: These are all disagreements on matters of doctrines & dogma and should never be confused with Soteriological issues. Invariably; when Eschatology is seen as a Salvational issue or item, it gives the aggressor a sense of entitlement or empowerment, which then in turn inflames the pride & ego and more often than not, someone's Salvation or standing in eternity is undoubtedly questioned, doubted, believed, approved, denied or challenged. This is neither how Christ taught his disciples to treat our Brethren or our Enemies.
Some seek to find a third level in this equation, which simply can not be done. Christ simplified it in these words “for he that is not against us is for us” and this is the line that has been drawn in the sand between many within the Futurist & Fulfilled paradigms in Eschatology. I am against no man, woman or child. I am against ideas & beliefs held by people. I hate no man, woman or child. I do not hate Jew, Muslim, Arab or Greek: I harbor no animosity towards Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists, Catholics, Mormons, Messianic, Judaizer, Buddhist, Hindu, Amish, Quaker or Mennonite.
My own personal doctrinal or dogmatic (personal preferences) views within the realm of Fulfilled Eschatology (Eschatology: The Study of the Last Things) must first take a backseat to Audience Relevance & Time Statements associated with the events surrounding the Parousia; 2nd Coming or Return of Christ. I believe many are placing the kart before the horse in matters of how Introductory Fulfilled Eschatology should be approached or taught. Many who believe in Fulfilled Eschatology believe that understanding the various natures (Literal-Natural-Physical or Literal-Spiritual) of how things took place, brings people into a better or quicker acceptance of the Audience Relevance & Time Statements. I beg to differ drastically.
If I were to tell you that: A) there was going to be an Eclipse at 2:00 AM on the East Coast of the United States, and provided you understood Eastern Standard Time-EST, would you not immediately deduce that I was speaking of a Lunar and not a Solar Eclipse? Conversely; if I were to tell you that: B) there was going to be a Lunar Eclipse on the East Coast of the United States; without additional information, you would not know the time of the eclipse until it happened. Which road is quicker?
If you were to leave your house on a trip that normally takes 12 hours one way, and you arrive 2 hours early, do you not gain an additional 120 minutes of time?
Being stuck in the endless mire of how did this happen, when did this happen or where did this happen, on all the different aspects involved in Eschatology, before a person is convinced all is fulfilled, is enough to give any sane person cause for alarm. The shortest distance between two points is a straight line and this is what is revealed through proper examination, consideration & digestion of the Audience Relevance & Times Statements, as they appear and as you first read them. Free of presupposition or simply an obstinate NO! The Natural Reading & Flow of the Scriptures all point to Fulfillment of the included Eschatological events, within not only a; or one (1) generation, but that it would all be fulfilled within that/their generation.
Allowing that this presupposition generates this myriad of questions as to the various natures in answer to the Literal-Natural-Physical or Literal-Spiritual Nature of how did this happen, when did this happen or where did this happen, on all the different aspects involved in Eschatology, before a person is convinced all is fulfilled: The simplistic acceptance on faith, through only the Audience Relevance & Times Statements, now allows & affords one the luxury of investigating the various natures in answer to the Literal-Natural-Physical or Literal-Spiritual Nature of how did this happen, when did this happen or where did this happen, on all the different aspects involved in Eschatology, in calmer waters within themselves because they feel less threatened and intimidated by the information examined & accepted, and the outsiders who are convinced you must be mad for adopting such a system of belief.
Is it possible for you to imagine a world with no threat of Armageddon & the Annihilation of the Human Race, and the assurance of God that the Human Race will always exist, and that this planet itself, will always exist? One who believes in God must first ask themselves these questions: Could God, at this very moment, end it all or start over with mankind? Has there ever been a time, since God created mankind, when he couldn't?
Doesn't it make sense to accept “The Kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord” as not only a past belief, modern day reality or future event, but rather as an eternal truth? Even the (Greek) Verb Tense in are become is in the Indicative Voice: Meaning no present, past or future tense is applied or implied but is rather simply a stated fact of that which has always been and will eternally remain. Can you imagine a time when God was ever or would ever be powerless over his creation? The answer here lies simply in accepting what has always been known and is reality to God and not to give in to fleshly, worldly or carnal thinking, in matters of eternity.
Audience Relevance & Time Statements are the absolute GOLD in Introductory Eschatology: Without them, man would be forever stuck in conjecture, fantasy & speculation. With them left alone and as they appear, one can only come to the conclusion that these events are things that would take place, be consummated, introduced and/or realized in the 1st Century.
The mistake in critiquing this analysis immediately can turn sour with presumptive statements such as: “This is Heaven“? or “This is the best it's ever going to get“? or “If this is New Jerusalem, I'm throwing out my Bible and I want a refund of everything I've invested in believing such nonsense” Accepting and believing the Audience Relevance & Time Statements is only the beginning of the journey: wanting complete & total revelation from these two items alone is not possible, but in accepting that now means now and shortly means shortly, one's journey into the “how did this happen, when did this happen or where did this happen, on all the different aspects involved in Eschatology” becomes a more, hassle-free venture.
According to the Book of Revelation; all things to be consummated, finished and/or reconciled, happen prior to the New Heaven/New Earth. I believe a simple review and understanding of Matthew 5:17-18 reveals whether or not this event has happened.
“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled“
Christ said not one thing from the Law & Prophets would pass; until it was all fulfilled: Then and only then, would Heaven & Earth pass. Has anything from the Law & Prophets passed? “But Christ removed the need for a physical Temple, Altar, Sacrifice, Levitical Priesthood & Physical Circumcision, right?” Are these items contained within, among or around the jots & tittles of the Law & Prophets? Can any (individually) be removed before Heaven & Earth pass?
Within Religion, Within Christianity, Within Eschatology, Within Partial Preterist, Historicist, Full Preterist/ Fulfilled Eschatology or even within the 12 Major Schools of thought within Futurist Eschatology: (Pre-Millennialism, A-Millennialism, Post-Millennialism, Pre-Trib Rapture, Mid-Trib Rapture, Post-Trib Rapture, No Rapture, Pre-Wrath, Post-Wrath, Dispensationalism, Zionism & Mid-Acts) there is entirely too much Doctrine & Dogma fighting over little issues. This animosity and hatred has to stop, at least among those that call themselves Christian
If we can all learn to separate Salvation from Doctrine, We would all have a more harmonious experience figuring it all out. Before this step can be taken, before this challenge can be set forth, you must break you!
My Focus on matters of Faith Center around Christ, Christos, the Anointed and/or Anointing. Salvation is a matter of accepting what is: Hebrews 10:14 says “For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified” everything else is doctrine & dogma: Nothing more than Feeling, emotions, wants & needs.
Right or wrong is not the issue in matters of Eschatology and NEVER should be. IT IS NOT ABOUT YOU OR ME! It's not about the information you or I discover or believe, but it is what you & I do with that information that counts!
Jerry Wm Bowers Jr. (Eschatology 101)
Time is but broken segments of eternity that when collective, is timeless.
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